D: You may have answered this before, but I'll question again for the record. Some people have implied that Longreach was a cover-up for some intelligence institution, such as the security police or military service. Is there any truth in that?
W: Yeah, but I think I told you: I mean Longreach was established to give me and a few other people cover.
D: And by whom? By the military intelligence or military service or...?
W: Yes, but by me but on behalf of military intelligence, chief of staff intelligence, directorate of covert collection ... collection.
D: Did you have a controller?
W: D
D: Can you spell that for us? Can you spell it out with a pen?
W:
D: Okay. Someone has told me that
W: Who?
D:
W: Yes, but that's...you see these people have mixed their time-frames. Have you met with
D: Not yet.
W: No. They've mixed their time-frames.
D: When was he in the picture then as far as you are concerned?
W:
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