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Ö: There's a.
Dirk Coetzee: Who?
Ö:
Ö: Well, if you don't know him...
Dirk Coetzee: Yeah no no no no sorry I thought maybe you pronounced the surname, but the surname...
O: He's called
Ö: But his name is But he's called...
Dirk Coetzee: And the surname?
Ö:
Dirk Coetzee: Not an Afrikaans name.
No, it's not, but he...
Dirk Coetzee: No, I don't know him.
Ö: Okay.
Dirk Coetzee: Who?
Ö: It's a Danish name.
Ö: yes.