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K:

If I asked. Because... (störande ljud)...the intelligence services...but you do not go and ask people out. If a man does not volunteer information like that. you don't ask him or you don't question him about it.

D:

Yes, but he told you this with a purpose that you may want to look him up in person in Turkey.

K:

Yeah, yeah

D:

So it would have been normal if he had told you how you could recognize him and use him.

K:

No, not specifically, because that wouldn't have made...that would...thar. well that is actually not important, because you can use a child of sixteen or you can use a man of sixty years old. It depends on what you want done and it depends on the previous experience of this man. The age has got nothing to do with it. Infirmity, maybe yes, but age has got nothing to do with the ability of a man to kill, whether it's a doctor, a minister, a priest or whatever. Age has never been a problem. People like to link it to age. Age bas gor nothing to do with it. What old operators do is to compensate for age and they change their habits in whatever operations they will do. They will still succeed but they will change their habits. They will rather go for long distance or exposures where before they would have, you know, done a hand-to-hand or with a knife or a pistol.

D:

But what I was asking for was rather if he...if he gave you some sort of information which made it possible for you to identify the person, such as age, hair colour, teeth, length, height.

K:

No he did not, except that he was a former intelligence officer and then also a Swedish intelligence officer. I had no other indication of what the man is even doing in Turkey now. You know I don't suppose you just sit in Turkey for the rest of your life. I suppose you must be doing something, but I did not ask him that. I did not ask him in what line of service he is now, or if he is running a business or whatever.

Ö:

Can you give us more information about the kind of name? I mean, if you can say it's typical British or Italian or...