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know that because I have read it in the newspapers. I mean ! haven't spoken to anybody who's said to me

or anything. I've read that in the papers. And I'm... To the best of my knowledge he was working for a company...the name will come back to me. Do you know any names of companies? Can you prompt me here? Can you help me?

D:

Beyond the company, do you have any connection with

and this

A:

No. There's another company that he is working for now. I have an idea that it is a

....and he is helping them. I think he's I'm not sure in what way. As aI'm talking about. As a And it is definitely a

), but I cannot remember the name now. I know the namc. If you tell me the name I'll know it, but I can't remember it offhand. But it is aand he isthem.

D:

In which capacity?

A:

I think he's a business...he's a

but I'm not... When you say "In which capacity?", it's hard for me to say. I think they do

and I know tha: he travels. I don't know how much he travels. I know that he travels to know he travels to I think he travels to other parts of : perhaps to to the northern...some of the north, central I don't know how much lie travels, but I know that he does...or I say he does, he was...acting in a capacity as an advisor. Basically to help with protocol and that sort of thing you know: to show them how to go abou things, liow to...if they wanted to do a business deal he would help them to go about it in the correct way, so that if, for example...I mean I'm just using a hypothetical example because I'm ignorant, but if, for example, they wanted to sell...I don't know, maizc, say, to

and they wouldn't quite know how to go about it, he would advise them. He would help them to import maize from businessmen in

say, he would help them.

say to the

C

Can you describe your relationship to We're not interested in today, of course.

in the middle of the eighties?

A:

You know, I've always had a friendly relationship with

I've always...

Ö:

Any kind of business relationship?

A:

No. You say "Any kind of business relationship?" I mean. very small. but not really business. 110. He's bought plants from me, that kind of thing, but 110. not business, not really. When you mean business. you mean proper business.

Ö:

Yes.

A:

No.