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A:

It's a really hard question that... I would say... When did I first meet with him? When did le come back from

D:

1980.

A

Then I met him in 1980. Approximately.

D:

But you said before that you went to

together.

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you clon!

D:

All right.A:

Yes.

D:

And you have been that ever since?

A:

Yes, I have been. But when I sayI don't see a lot of him. I don't see a lot of I don't see

I see him maybe once every six months. I might... Just occasionally you know I might see him.

ID:

Has he ever told you about his

A:

No.

D:

mean, it would have been normal that you had asked him questions or he would have boasted about it or something like that.

A:

always thought that

did speak too much about

That was my opinion. The reason I thought that was not because he boasted He didn't really... Yerli know, our relationship was never one... Well, si:nply he didn't boast to me about what lie did. He didn't and I didn't really ask him. I mean, occasionally you know lie would say. well... He really told me very very little. Very very little. What he spoke about was actually what was revealed in the papers and then he would maybe boast about what was in the papers. But apart from that, no. He didn't tell me about any work that he was involved with. I have no information, and I didn't ask about any work that he was involved with at the time, in

or anything like that. Nothing like that. I didn't ask him and it was never told to me. I thought that he talked too much. My reason for saying that is that i thought that he's got a high profile and it wasn't good to have such a high profile in my opinion. It could be dangerous. Not dangerous from the point of...because someone... If there was a change of government, the authorities would prosecute him or grab him. No, I didn't think that at all. That never crossed... I didn't