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reacted. Nobody discussed it. Nobody even talked about it. And I'd never even thought about it again until, bang! I mean,was saying things in his trial that I was the planner of the London bombing and all this and that. You know, that all went. I mean I...you know I was expecting him to say things like that, but then I was here when suddenly this came out, so, you know it's like a ten-year-old story that just suddenly jumped up at me again.

D:

Do you say that this article in 1989 was the first time that you were aware of the possibility that there was a South African link?

W:

Absolutely. Well, I mean yes, but I mean obviously they were saying the link was me.

D:

Yes, but you haven't heard of any person...

W:

I hadn't heard before that, no.

Ö:

Well I have just one question: you mentionedbefore. How... You know him?

W:

Yes. If I remember correctly, I met him in South Africa. He's a journalist and I can't remember who introduced us, but somebody arranged a meeting, said: "This guy can be usefUL". And I employed him solely, one hundred per cent, absolutely only. I said: "Right, you are now our journalist in London, and all you do..." I didn't even send him to work against the ANC, because I had enough sources working against the ANC. I tasked him on the PAC. And I said: "I want you just to get to know them, become their friends, buy them drinks, get in the office, get close to them. I want to know everything about the PAC. Can you just write me reports, like a journalist?" And in his trial, because what happened was that unfortunately |became to know him and was collecting his reports and sending them to the embassy to come back to South Africa, and he started now trying to make a whole deal, because he was trying to earn more money, and what he was then doing, he then had a whole lot of information stolen from the ANC, which he then gave to (, to make some political analysis of. So was charged with possession of stolen property when he was...when was arrested and then him. But he was acquitted, because he said straight, when he was caught: "Look, the guy brought me stuff. My job was...I didn't know it was stolen. I was a political analyst and a journalist and I wrote the reports and

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