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it. So I then decided I'm going to take that way out. No-one has then....has yet contacted me, of theCommission, no-one. But it now came out that they were investigating seriously: have I perhaps visitedso they could say we conspired, we made up these stories. But I did not. I did not visitspecifically. So I then went to the ANC and I said: "Listen, I can't run away all over the world to spill the beans while fleeing from the South African Government and the South African Police and the ANC. So I will have to go to someone. If I went to the ANC, the people I did wrong and 1 said I'm sorry. If you will I will accept it, give me my back against a wall, 1 want to fight the system through the pen, because the pen is mightier than the sword. You can't through...I know the South African judicial system, I've lived with it. I could see things happening. So I did not flee justice when I left the country on the fifth of November 1989, a Sunday morning. I flee injustice. And from the first day that I left I said: "I am prepared to come

back and stand trial, but not alonc: with the politicians and the generals who Pomn gave the orders." I wrote those letters to FA. I went then to

Mauritius, first with, I gave him my whole story on tape and then on the eighth of November flew on to London, where I arrived on the ninth and|met me and took me to the ANC. ... for three days I told my story to them just in brief, well in full but they just listened, they didn't put on any tapes or took any...and then they decided to fly me out to Bulawayo in Zimbabwe, Harare Bulawayo on the sixteenth. We left London on the fifteen of November and landed on the sixteenth and went straight on to Bulawayo. But thenblew the story on the seventeenth of November, the whole story to the world and in the first week of December the ANC debriefed me in detail, again it wasthe eastern, the Phumalanga minister, Stoorn now second in charge in NIA, he's the deputy director-general. It was, who's also a very big guy in National Intelligence Agency now, and another guy,

an attorney. So I gave my whole story to them and then we flew on to Lusaka on the second of February 1990. Actually on the third, the ANC was unbanned by F. W. de Klerk on the second of February 1990, but the Zimbabweans didn't want us to make a press release. They were afraid of retaliation attacks, so we flew on to Lusaka and tried it there, but the Lusakan guys were also afraid. Well I stayed until the seventh of December 1990, when I went to London. Things went wrong in my household, with my wife: a young guy moved into the house and my two kids came out in July 1990, to join me. And during that time, while in Lusaka 1990 I went for the Harms Commission to London in April 1990

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