Dirk Coetzee: Okay. So no-one listened to me and in the end it was returned to the sender and as a well-known fact now it was blown up.
I then went to give evidence in London in the Lothar Neethling trial.
I came back to Zambia and finally left for London on the seventh of December, where I stayed until the fifth of July 1993, on the fourth of July and when I decided to just get on a plane and get back with no-one's permission.
And flied back notwithstanding the fact that the warrant of arrest was issued to me and is still open.
Either in December 1989 or January 1990 a warrant of arrest for murder on poor was issued by Mr I think was the advocate in Natal in those days.
And still on file and has never been executed.
For my arrest recently like who's now ... a new round of arrests was made out.
I was then with the ANC in Shell House since the fifth of...the fourth of July 1993, till first February 1995, when all the security establishments of the old homelands: Ciskei, Transkei, Venda and Bophuthatswana, with the PAC, with DIS, the ANC intelligence, with the old national intelligence was ... were incorporated into one body, namely the National Intelligence Agency, where I got a job as section commander on subversion and terrorism.
Can you believe it?
And when ... where I was suspended during my arrest.
All civil servants in South Africa, if you are charged criminally you must be suspended from duty.
So I am suspended at the moment from duty since about ... I don't know, say May-June this year, pending my criminal charge, my criminal trial which will proceed in Durban, the east coast down in South Africa, in the Supreme Court, 'A' Supreme Court, court number 'A', put down from the second to the thirteenth of December.
The charges are murder and robbery. The deceased is , but in the meantime the Truth and Reconciliation Commission has interfered and my hearing on this specific case will be from fourth to eighth November in Durban next month: Monday a week. And that is where I am sitting at the moment.
As far as the Olof Palme stories is concerned: about two years ago, eighteen months to two years ago, a guy was referred to me by I think he was deputy president of the ANC at the time.
He had a secretary, , there's a HB16609 phone number in Johannesburg,
Referred a guy by the name of Boris Ersson to me, who had the blessing of the ANC, because I was then still with the ANC, I was not yet in National Intelligence.
That he can speak to me, he's allowed to speak to me and give ... gave him permission.
He originally only wanted about a one-hour, two-hour interview, but it ended up staying for two and a half days, and we ended up at Vlakplaas after he got permission to go to Vlakplaas with me.
And then in the by-pass on camera while we were doing this interview he asked me whether I knew anything
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