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FHL Hans Ölvebro: Anything more direct about Palme?

ÅKL Jan Danielsson: Where did you talk to  Philip Powell 

Eugene de Kock: It was in the base camp, that was joining the game reserve, it was joining the Velozi/Felozi? game reserve. There is a base camp that is adjoining the fence of it.

We sat a night there and we talked and he then he gave me this information all by himself, it was not forced out of him.

I was actually surprised by his openess. I did not ask for this information. It came in normal conversations.

This was before we had an argument about his way of doing things when we started the training.


ÅKL Jan Danielsson: Do you remember the name of the camp?

Eugene de Kock: No and there is not a day that I am not kicking myself for not keeping it or keeping it back. I don't know how to explain it to you - not remorse but the stupidity of not keeping it. I had the name and I had...?


FHL Hans Ölvebro: Can you connect it with another event?

Eugene de Kock: I can maybe connect  Philip Powell  to another event, which happened, there is another name, which I will give to you which can give you another lead.


FHL Hans Ölvebro: When you talked to  Philip Powell  were you still in the camp?

Eugene de Kock: No, there is no other incidents that I can attach to it, which can give an additional, sort of projection of what happened there.


ÅKL Jan Danielsson: Where were you sitting?

Eugene de Kock: We were sitting just outside.

There was a long bungalow, built of stone with a thatched roof, if I am not mistaken. We were sitting outside there. That was where we slept and they also made the food there.

There is a little round bungalow, opposite of this long bungalow, it is also a shower and toilet facilities.