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Where are we now in the chronology?

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Dirk Coetzee: We are now; sorry...I left Vlakplaas on 3 ist December: 1981. I was in

narcotics in 1982 from January till August. I then went to recruiting headquarters in August 1982. I stayed there till about July 1983, when I was transferred to staff officer of the regional commissioner in...they call it Northern Transvaal, but it's a Pretoria area. The real Northern Transvaal they called 'Far North' that's at Pietersburg, but Northern Transvaal. So I was the staff officer. He had four: there was a colonel above me and a major and I was a captain at this stage. So we're now in July '84. No, it was a little bit earlier, maybe March, because during July '841 couldn't sort of cope with the work at the office and I wanted to go outside, working as a policeman again, and I was then transferred to radio squad cars, 'Radio Control as they call it, duty officer. In other words handling...in charge of all police vehicles on the air during that time. At that stage I came into conflict with...and that was now...I'm talking towards the second half of '84...in conflict with a security police chief, he inight have been Commissioner of Police then, General

Johan Coetzee and Coetzee...then Minister of Police Louis le Grange, on HB 10658 illegal phone-tapping, which was now proved beyond all doubt it was right,

it was true. Of course, as a result of that I ended up on the receiving end of being charged on seven accounts 'behaving in a manner unbecoming to my rank'. We call it 'the barbed-wire section' in the police force: if you're smoking in uniform, if your shoes are dirty, your hair is long, you know you can fix up a policeman in whatever way you want. I had already then decided in October '84 to put in a medical unfit, just leave the police, I mean I couldn't take it any more. I put in a medical unfit because I became sugar diabetic, like my child insulin-dependent in February 1981. So I decided 'I've had enough, I will go'. My medical discharge was stopped on the fourth of December 1984, when the Commissioner of Police summons me to come and see him. And I said: "You know what it's all about. It's about you doing illegal phone-tapping. I know it, so I don't think we have anything to say to one another. I'm on sick leave, and if you want to see me, you can come anci see me at home." So he suspended me: suspended me 4 December 1984. For four months nothing happened. They didn't advise me why I was suspended, nothing. So then I started with a court interdict in March 1995, to force the police...

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