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C:

It's a nice story.

Ö:

Yes.

Ö:

Please go on.

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C: In any event Mister Williams... Mister Eriksson came to the hotel, in the

lounge and we sat not, in a room, it was in an open lounge, other people were sitting at different tables there and so on. And he knew Craig Williamson and came immediately to where we were. We've arranged it... I think... I'm not sure whether I had a tape recorder. I can't remember that. It would have been dangerous in any event for me to have a tape recorder there in a traditionally neutral country. But he introduced me then. Williamson introduced me and he says: "This is General Coetzee,And Mister...he went absolutely white, absolutely white. Without me saying one word he realised, you know, what the position was. And then I said: "Well..."I merely said to him: "Mister Eriksson, the fact is this you now understand, Mister Williamson is our agent, he has, over the period of two three years, given us a lot of information about your activities. You know what it is. I needn't expand on it. But I want to give you one assurance: it is that we're not working against the interest of Sweden. We're not interested in Sweden. Sweden is not..."

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J:

May I just ask a question? Constance wants to know if she can arrange something for a light lunch or something like that now at a coffee house.

C:

I'm talking now to Mister Eriksson. And I said to him, you know, wasn't there a possibility, you know that if there are rumours or allegations thai Mister Williamson was working for South African police or intelligence and so on, that he would defend him and says that he has investigated his past. It was true that he was on the police. Everyone knew that he was a young policeman, like everyone goes to the army or the police in South Africa. That's nothing. But since then he cleared him and there's nothing wrong with that. He'd answer that. And in return for that, I will not reveal, because I couldn't hide it. The moment that Williamson came back to South Africa it would be revealed. There is no way that you could stop it. And around this situation we had a say a ten or quarter minute of discussion: whether it was