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with people that was associated with intelligence organisations of other nations, to the extent, to the extent that we here in South Africa at some stage thought that this IEUF was a front for either the [[CIA]] or a front for the Russians, because why are these people - they're supposed just to give money for humanitarian things, but they are involved in activities in South America, they're involved in activities in the Middle East, they're involved in activities in Britain, with this group that's fighting the Brits.
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[[Johann Coetzee]]: with people that was associated with intelligence organisations of other nations, to the extent, to the extent that we here in South Africa at some stage thought that this IEUF was a front for either the [[CIA]] or a front for the Russians, because why are these people - they're supposed just to give money for humanitarian things, but they are involved in activities in South America, they're involved in activities in the Middle East, they're involved in activities in Britain, with this group that's fighting the Brits.
  
Ö: I.R.A.
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[[Hans Ölvebro]]: [[I.R.A.]]
  
C: Yeah, I.R.A. They know about, I don't say they're intimately involved, but they had links to these people and they had conferences and they spoke. And they had links with the Arabs, with what is it? Yassir Arafat and so on.
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[[Johann Coetzee]]: Yeah, [[I.R.A.]]. They know about, I don't say they're intimately involved, but they had links to these people and they had conferences and they spoke. And they had links with the Arabs, with what is it? Yassir Arafat and so on.
  
  
 
He travelled extensively. He travelled to the Soviet Union, the old Soviet Union. He travelled to
 
He travelled extensively. He travelled to the Soviet Union, the old Soviet Union. He travelled to

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Johann Coetzee: with people that was associated with intelligence organisations of other nations, to the extent, to the extent that we here in South Africa at some stage thought that this IEUF was a front for either the CIA or a front for the Russians, because why are these people - they're supposed just to give money for humanitarian things, but they are involved in activities in South America, they're involved in activities in the Middle East, they're involved in activities in Britain, with this group that's fighting the Brits.

Hans Ölvebro: I.R.A.

Johann Coetzee: Yeah, I.R.A.. They know about, I don't say they're intimately involved, but they had links to these people and they had conferences and they spoke. And they had links with the Arabs, with what is it? Yassir Arafat and so on.


He travelled extensively. He travelled to the Soviet Union, the old Soviet Union. He travelled to