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Johann Coetzee: No, yeah. Never in my whole life been to Sweden.


FHL Hans Ölvebro: No. You haven't been to Denmark?

Johann Coetzee: No. I've been one afternoon: Sunday afternoon the German police drove me through when I was with the German police on a visit, on a bit of a secondment. They said,

"well I think there's some place that you could just drive through on an afternoon."


FHL Hans Ölvebro: Okay.

Johann Coetzee: And we came back the same day.


FHL Hans Ölvebro: Do you know any Swedish policemen?

Johann Coetzee: Not one. Never met one.


FHL Hans Ölvebro: No. Have you heard about any Swedish policemen who have been in South Africa for training?

Johann Coetzee: No. When I was with the academy here, the police academy, I was on what was termed an international committee to investigate a new type of police service for South Africa, you know which is now in operation.

And I remember that Mister Mufumadi, there was a party in Pretoria and there, was ... I spoke to a lady who was the Swedish ambassador: I think she's ... or she's second in charge there.

And she mentioned that Sweden has also made available in South Africa some Swedish policemen.

But I've met people, but I mean I can't say that he told me he's Swedish or Finnish or Danish and so on. And what I know that we've sent some people to Denmark I think.


FHL Hans Ölvebro: But that...

Johann Coetzee: Didn't we send here this guy?

J: Oh yeah.

Johann Coetzee: While I was here on a non-operation, the Danes offered, but not Sweden as far as I know.