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Dirk Coetzee: Is it? I wonder why. Running away from the truth again. I can try now if you want to. You can give me a phone to find out.
FHL Hans Ölvebro: But maybe after the ...
Dirk Coetzee: After the interview, okay.
FHL Hans Ölvebro: After we stop the tape recorder we can talk about telephone numbers.
Dirk Coetzee: And Peter Casselton too. You can ... Peter Casselton is quite open and loose and he will ... he knows where all this Ant White and Ronald Reid-Daly and all this ex-Rhodesian lot. That was more their section.
FHL Hans Ölvebro: There's a name: Namn maskerat
Dirk Coetzee: . He was called . He was on Section A3 with Craig Williamson in 1981 as a captain, a young captain.
They now ... him and Namn maskerat , the one Danish guy that was with Craig Williamson in Daisy Operation has through Craig's cooperation bought the Quay or is running the Quay Four restaurant in Cape Town on the waterfront. His real name is Namn maskerat but we call him Jack.
Now Namn maskerat left Jack and I met ... I flew down on a flight to Cape Town in November last year, when Craig Williamson and two Angolan, black Angolan guys, skinny guys were on the plane and Mark Asmusen met them at the airport.
And they walked straight up to Craig Williamson, but he was so nervous.
But I said:
- "Can't we have a beer together, Craig?"
He said:
- "Oh I'm actually in a hurry, I must fly back but ( very open. A nice man."
But they never contacted me. But then Mark Asmusen said he's out of Quay Four now, he's now with Craig Williamson with diamonds in Angola.
But Quay Four is a military front. They also had the restaurant - if you sit at Quay Four in Cape Town looking to the water and you look to your left, there's another restaurant which belonged to them. The Quila, something Tequila, Mexican Tequila or something, which Louis has sold, or they have sold or given or whatever to the former Minister of Police Namn maskerat s two sons: they are running Tequila.
But for sure a front, for sure a thing that was started with Craig Williamson and with money from taxpayers. He was poor. He visited Peter Casselton still whilst Peter Casselton was in London, Peter Casselton, he visited and he had no money. He was a poor police rat like I am: no money.
And Peter Casselton treated him there, Peter Casselton will tell you the story, but that's to help you.
