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obviously the report came up, which, in stang, is known to people who deal in around this theme by October Surprise . October Surprise - the report that contains some mentions or disclosures of material considered secret by the United States of America - allou's you to guess the existence of a link. The conjecture of the existence of a link also passes for information, which has been obtained by journalistic investigations, that there may have been a negotiation, brokered by the French secret services, to release the hostages in order to which would be consummated in exchange for the supply of material considered essential for the Iranian air force - und we must not forget that the Shah of Persia was one of the largest purchasers of American war material and that airplanes, with the attrition of the war, needed refitting, that Iran would not be able to effect. And, regarding this material - I use the language “material" as being information services material - I always hoped that I could be released of the military secret of the United States of America after 30 years. Perhaps not yet wus, but the mention and conjecture that is made in October Surprise is that there would be a secret convention for the delivery of some spare parts to the Iranian air force and that, in exchange of this negotiation, negotiated by the French, the hostages would be released time of the Americun election, which came to elect President Reagan”.

Asked if the conversation he had with the defense minister was in any way related with the fact that, on November 11, 1980, the newspaper Portugal Hoje made a headline with a alleged arms shipment to Iran, which was denied on the same day, according to the press, with a note from the Ministry of National Defense and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, answered:

« Now that you talk 10 me about it, I admit that it was following that information thur this came about in the conversation with Adelino Amaro da Costa. I have no memory that it was this news that triggered the need for conversation or the need for information exchange'.

Asked to clarify whether the conversation he had with Adelino Amaro da Costa cffective prohibitions, which would have alrcady beca madc, on arms cxports, namely those alrcady mentioned, for Guatemala and Indonesia, relations, not necessarily with the Ocrober Surprise , but with the famous Lisbon Connection , and it was still possible to mention which individualities, in his opinion, will have been important in the direction of both private companies and, above all, public companies which in 1980 ensured the trade in military material, namely COMETNA, Explosivos da Trafaria and some of the private companies replied:

« As for the Lisbon Connection report , I haven't read it, I don't know it, I'm not able to issue un opinion on it. There was, of course, a Lisbon Connection. I'm sure there was a Lisbon Connection! (...) Portugal was a country, therefore, without State aut with limited police and investigative capacity a the time and therefore permeable to all type of clandestine and covert operations, therefore usefUL for the use of the Portuguese runway. Ask me if it was done with the use of special israeli services, for sure it is, because, in large part of the supply of the various military interventions that occurred in Lebanon, interference from Israeli secret services was constant. If it was these secret services that set up illegal export operations in Portugal did not

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